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I know you disagree, but there was a time when he was pretty sweet. Then they chose not to roll with that momentum, kill it completely, and THEN give him the Universal Title by "default".
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I do disagree, but I don’t disagree this isn’t the best timing.
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Yeah he just needs to go back to yelling get these hands repeatedly and flipping over whatever large object is nearest to him.
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He should turn heel and be a dickhead who claims to be a self-made millionaire. He should call everyone lazy for not being as big as he is.
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Also clearly Ryan Cabrera has a type
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It’s one of the biggest problems with modern day WWE. They never try anything. I much preferred the days where they tried things that went nowhere, to not even trying. Should have had Big E jealous of Kofi and Woods stuck in the middle for some entertaining Tv. Instead, cereal, pancakes, another Big E suicide dive and boredom. |
Looking at those Rosebuds, I recognize more and more people. Maybe everyone looks the same, but I’m pretty sure I see Carmella, Becky Lynch and Elias. And is that Tucker Knight in the back? And I think that’s Audrey Marie and I’m sure the blonde is someone too.
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I wasted 2hrs on sd cause i figured they wouldn't give Undertaker such a weak tribute but i was wrong.
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Like it wasn't even out of pettiness of Braun getting over on his own and instead was a rare time where WWE booking managed to actually create a legit big star. |
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Brutus Magnus Faarooq Asaad Ric “Spartacus” Flair Mike “The Gladiator” Awesome |
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Not at much as 3 Man Band having more World Champions than the New Day, though. |
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At least Bret's WCW career would likely have been a lot better than WCW dropping the ball big time with him post-Screwjob. |
NWO wouldn’t have been nearly as big without Hogan.
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I think Hogan's performances in the nWo, even his promos, are DRASTICALLY overrated. With that said, he nailed the heel turn itself. And his legacy made the turn that much more effective. Bret Hart simply did not have that track record as all-conquering good guy of the yesteryear to make it work. Though, it probably still would have been great, just on a smaller scale.
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Yeah nobody really had the same mainstream good guy aura Hogan had which instantly turned that heel turn into an all-time classic moment. Closest WCW had was Sting but still wouldn't have been as monumental as Hogan's turn.
Even Hogan's history with Mean Gene, who was the first person to talk to him, greatly added to that moment's legacy. |
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I mean, sure, on paper, in an angle where you have two guys who are presumably from WWF on a mission to take over WCW, it seems like adding yet another guy being fresh of a Stamford run to keep that aura going would be the way to go. However, the flip side is, how the fuck were they actually going to personally co-exist? Bret flanked by two members of the Kliq without any of what would have been boiling friction between he and Shawn in the way of however his relationship with these two guys may have shaken out? We might have had a totally different version of said Kliq. Then, interject the question of how they would professionally co-exist. Part of the perfect storm what helped Hogan work in the role is him being the "the man" in the same way that Flair was always the primary focus of the Four Horsemen. Would Nash and Hall have afforded the same courtesy to Bret, or would he have been on more "equal footing" with those two? Seems like it would have changed the dynamics of what the nWo even was to begin with. Not passing judgment on if it would have been better or worse. I for one certainly think it an interesting scenario. The whole angle would have evolved quite a bit differently, though. |
There would have been less rambling 45 minute promos with 86 nwo members in the ring. Since Bret wasn’t that great of a talker. Take that how you will.
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I've never understood the criticism of the NWO having too many members. Logically it makes sense.
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WWF really damaged Bret by turning him heel the way that they did. Sure in 97 the Hart Foundation vs Austin and McMahon was really great, but it left Bret's babyface run in the dust, for good. Once Bret lifted the vail to show his heelish personality, it's too hard to buy him as "the best guy there is". His heel personality is a version of himself that we all know well, the bitter and egotistical wrestler who thinks it's more real than it is. Bret in WCW was doomed if he was going to be used as a heel. Bret really was doomed when he started shitting on the American wrestling fans. He couldn't come back from it.
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Virgil and Bryan Adams in the nWo isn't exactly compelling TV. |
If the whole storyline is NWO taking over WCW, and with WCW having like 200 wrestlers, I can get why NWO would have a large number.
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Bret turned Bret. |
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Didn't help things got worse once Hogan and co. started to really hog up the spotlight and quality tv time since that just led to more and more wrestlers asking to be included simply for that guaranteed tv time and focus in the company. The group either shouldn't have gotten Bischoff as early as it did or cut out all the excess after him with a few exceptions like Scott Steiner. Once he joined, they pretty much achieved their storyline goal of taking over WCW. |
Yeah, the Bischoff thing is true. Once the president is part of the NWO, everything else is moot.
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I liked the large NWO roster because it you actually got to see the NWO take a pinfall loss. The only guys on the NWO I disliked were Konnan and Brian Adams. Especially Adams.
I always looked it as guys choosing sides, so the random additions didn't bother me I also think the NWO should have ended at Starrcade 97 |
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