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Maluco 06-05-2016 12:03 AM

Not blaming AJ, just explaining my apathy as a fan towards it and why I think it is stupid booking.

He is a breath of fresh air and 38 years old. His time should be now. 3 straight PPV losses off the bat and straight into a feud with Cena.

Droford 06-05-2016 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4819783)

That's gotta be crazy for Rollins considering 10 years ago..

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Ol Dirty Dastard 06-05-2016 12:06 AM

Well yeah no doubt, but let's get realistic here, they have what they want to do and how they want to do things, and as a performer like AJ Styles, you can either sink or swim... which means hanging in there while they fuck you over with bad writing. We all know Stephanie or Shane will be making "The Club" look weak within the month but all you can do is ignore that drivel and hope for some good segments.

CyNick doesn't post here anymore so we don't have someone trying to convince us how much of a genius Vince and Stephanie are so we don't need to bring out how befuddling the creative direction is. You're at a 1/5 success rate with the company, but that one out of the five can be pretty alright.

Maluco 06-05-2016 12:12 AM

Come on man, that doesn't sound Dastardly at all, that sounds like Defeated Dale Newstead :$

I wasn't a big Daniel Bryan fan, but if it showed one thing, it is that the fans can win out. I hope Reigns continues to be booed, he is a terrible, boring character, a charisma vacuum. He puts me off watching Raw so much.

There is a place for a more polished Reigns in the future, but the time should be now for the guys that are over now. Who knows, if people keep voicing their opinion, we could get something special again soon.

Wishbone 06-05-2016 12:21 AM

But DB didn't prove that at all. If anything it proved the WWE right in that fans were fickle and would forget about him overnight (which they did.) The "YES!" chants have become a parody that isn't even associated with him or his revolution anymore.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-05-2016 12:24 AM

He's retired due to injury. Fans can't YES a clear health. They did not forget about him at all. If anything the YES chants are a permanent reminder of what he did.

Maluco 06-05-2016 12:26 AM

He didn't have the look, size, mic skills or any "style" that WWE actively encourage, yet he rose to the point where he was a focus of television and then beat two of the biggest stars of the last 20 years in one night to be the champion of said company.

You can argue about the length of time he would have stayed there if he were fit and healthy, but you can't argue that he didn't reach the top of the tree on the back of the popularity the fans gave him.

Maluco 06-05-2016 12:29 AM

Point being, if the fans weren't vocal and just accepted what was happening, his story and wrestling history would have been very different.

Accepting that this is the way it works and just enjoying the scraps in amongst the crap they are serving up, could deny someone like AJ a moment like Bryan's.

Emperor Smeat 06-05-2016 12:35 AM

Only big concern I have about the Styles-Cena feud is The Club becoming Nexus 2.0 in the sense of losing their first two big feuds back-to-back.

Nexus lost a lot of momentum with the Cena feud and then Orton finished off whatever real value the group had left with the next feud.

With the feud against Reigns, Gallows & Anderson looked more like somewhat useless lackeys than as an Outsider-like group the sheets were teasing the WWE planned for their debut and group formation.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-05-2016 12:37 AM

they already are useless lackeys

Wishbone 06-05-2016 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4819799)
He's retired due to injury. Fans can't YES a clear health. They did not forget about him at all. If anything the YES chants are a permanent reminder of what he did.

Even after he won the title the second he lost it fans started getting less and less involved. You started seeing more an more "haters" popping up all over the place, and the chants got less and less prevalent. By the time that Roman won the Rumble people were broken to the point that they didn't even care anymore. That all happened before he retired, dude. WWE proved that they could break the fans will with Bryan. They bent for a bit, but as soon as they were able WWE crushed the little "revolution" and went back to their old ways without a single fuck given. Same thing happened to Cesaro and Ambrose to lesser degrees. All the Daniel Bryan experiment proved was that in the end WWE always gets what they want.

As for the YES! chants they have nothing to do with what Bryan did anymore. People chant them for anything they remotely like now. Hell, they chant YES! for people that embody exactly what Bryan's movement stood against. Even Roman has elicited YES! chants in the past.

I'm not arguing that Bryan didn't accomplish some amazing things in his career, but to say his little revolution succeeded is just false. It barely got him over the hump, and it hasn't helped anyone else reach that level either.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-05-2016 12:38 AM

I think they're good so they'll get good reactions, but WWE booking jobs anyone that isn't their own... so there couldn't be a solid outsider faction

Wishbone 06-05-2016 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4819805)
Point being, if the fans weren't vocal and just accepted what was happening, his story and wrestling history would have been very different.

Accepting that this is the way it works and just enjoying the scraps in amongst the crap they are serving up, could deny someone like AJ a moment like Bryan's.

People will never get behind AJ the way they did Bryan. Hell, I'd be willing to bet we'll never see another phenomenon like what we saw with Bryan again (at least not for a very long time.) What happened with him was a fluke, an oddity. Mainstream wrestling fans are too complacent and stupid to change long term.

Volare 06-05-2016 01:26 AM

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#1-norm-fan 06-05-2016 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4819758)
I know people enjoy Styles, but you would be hoping they have something bigger planned for Summerslam than Cena going up against a guy who lost at the last 3 PPV's.

Will you feel the same way when Styles beats Cena at MITB and then Cena gets his win back at Battleground and then they trade some tag match wins back and forth on Raw/Smackdown and then at SummerSlam we get the OMG RUBBER MATCH!?!?!

Cool King 06-05-2016 09:05 AM

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Maluco 06-05-2016 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4819901)
Will you feel the same way when Styles beats Cena at MITB and then Cena gets his win back at Battleground and then they trade some tag match wins back and forth on Raw/Smackdown and then at SummerSlam we get the OMG RUBBER MATCH!?!?!

Lol, yes, a million times yes:lol:

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-05-2016 11:24 AM

Come on guys, we know Cena wins the 7 rubber matches than the 3-1 handicap match vs the club

EzekielKane 06-05-2016 12:18 PM

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This is for those of you who trash talk backyard wrestling...

drave 06-05-2016 12:38 PM

And it is still trash.

Mercenary 06-05-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 4819954)
And it is still trash.

Oh come on it's high quality entertainment.......For the five people watching

Lock Jaw 06-05-2016 12:46 PM

Should have replaced Rassling Q&A Forum with Backyard Rassling Forum

Rammsteinmad 06-05-2016 01:23 PM

You misspelled "Backyard Gymnastics" mate.

Savio 06-05-2016 01:31 PM

PPV: Cena will win by DQ
PPV 2: Cena will win by Pinfall
PPV 3, 2 out of 3 falls: AJ gets pinned and submits.

Ultra Mantis 06-05-2016 01:35 PM

Artistic Combat

Nicky Fives 06-05-2016 02:25 PM

getting tired of all this backyard shit in here.....

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-05-2016 02:30 PM

lol just try not address it, it may go away

Disturbed316 06-05-2016 05:52 PM

Why does it always have to have awful music? Maybe if you changed it from Death-core to classical music, more people might be forthcoming of it.

Disturbed316 06-05-2016 05:52 PM

Nah, it's always going to be trash, just a bunch of dangerous dicks looking to break others necks with some flippy floppy twirly move.

Cool King 06-05-2016 06:24 PM

I'm just amazed that there are still people doing backyard wrestling in 2016.

Cool King 06-05-2016 06:24 PM

I thought that backyard wrestling died in 2004.

Emperor Smeat 06-05-2016 08:03 PM

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Fignuts 06-05-2016 08:17 PM

Nice of him to just stand there on the ropes waiting forthe move.

Ultra Mantis 06-05-2016 08:22 PM

Maybe he lost a contact lens.

Oh, hang on.

Mr. Nerfect 06-05-2016 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4819971)
PPV: Cena will win by DQ
PPV 2: Cena will win by Pinfall
PPV 3, 2 out of 3 falls: AJ gets pinned and submits.

I almost agree with this. Since PPV 3 is SummerSlam, I can't see them going 2/3 Falls. But I think a Cena DQ win is the only way to book MITB.

Mr. Nerfect 06-05-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4819708)
I could but I don't like the Vaudevillians. Think the Shining Stars can be a good heel tag team. Vaudevillians just dont have much of a shelf life I feel. I give them about the same amount of time Los Matadors lasted before they repackage them.

Sadly I give The Shining Stars the same amount of time. I think they are great talent, but the WWE hasn't known how to use talent from that region in the world in a long time.

Dark One 06-05-2016 09:20 PM

KIKCOUT AT TWOOOOOO

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Ol Dirty Dastard 06-05-2016 09:29 PM

lol what the hell

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-05-2016 09:29 PM

ONE TWO HE GOT HEEEEEM NO HE DIDN'T

Mr. Nerfect 06-05-2016 09:34 PM

Too much backyard, not enough backside.

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