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Old 10-02-2019, 10:15 PM   #1
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My only fear is that every match is gonna be really competitive. If every match is “close” then it kinda makes wins and losses feel less meaningful because they could all go either way. I hope they eventually start using some guys just to job.
If wins and losses matter but all the matches are close, I still think that's a vast improvement over WWE's 50/50 booking in the past--I haven't watched lately to know if it's actually any better than it was. Ideally if you have someone that's won like fifteen matches straight versus somebody that's won a few matches and lost a few matches, the guy with the streak is going look better and have more momentum. But, even in "real" sports, there can be close games/upsets even with a lopsided game on paper, so I wouldn't be TOO worried about "even" matches.
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If wins and losses matter but all the matches are close, I still think that's a vast improvement over WWE's 50/50 booking in the past--I haven't watched lately to know if it's actually any better than it was. Ideally if you have someone that's won like fifteen matches straight versus somebody that's won a few matches and lost a few matches, the guy with the streak is going look better and have more momentum. But, even in "real" sports, there can be close games/upsets even with a lopsided game on paper, so I wouldn't be TOO worried about "even" matches.
I'd much rather a wrestler lose 6 close matches in a row then win lose win lose win lose. It tells a far better story.
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If wins and losses matter but all the matches are close, I still think that's a vast improvement over WWE's 50/50 booking in the past--I haven't watched lately to know if it's actually any better than it was. Ideally if you have someone that's won like fifteen matches straight versus somebody that's won a few matches and lost a few matches, the guy with the streak is going look better and have more momentum. But, even in "real" sports, there can be close games/upsets even with a lopsided game on paper, so I wouldn't be TOO worried about "even" matches.
Upsets are fine. I just worry about EVERY match being competitive. Parity in real sports suck. When you can script it, you should try to avoid it. Simply making wins and losses matter is definitely an improvement over WWE booking. Hopefully they pay more attention to detail than just wins and losses though.
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Upsets are fine. I just worry about EVERY match being competitive. Parity in real sports suck. When you can script it, you should try to avoid it. Simply making wins and losses matter is definitely an improvement over WWE booking. Hopefully they pay more attention to detail than just wins and losses though.
That's fair. You definitely don't want to get into a spot where people zone out for the first ten minutes because every match goes at least fifteen, for sure.

I do think it's probably wise to have a lot of even matches to start out with as you're trying to establish a lot of folks.
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AEW's cam shot from the crowd that swing towards the ring is probably the best cam style shot in wrestling in recent years. Looks great whenever they do it and they also don't overdue it like WWE's habit with new and shinny things.
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Wow they aren’t doing rest holds during the commercial breaks! Revolutionary concept.
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I think they're gonna come pretty close to that 20 minute limit.
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Great finish to Pac v Hangman. I love that the face doesn't have to tap to lose. They're stuck with nowhere to go and just pass. Great stuff.
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PAC 2-0 with both wins being over important guys due to ref stoppage. That's excellent.
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PAC 2-0 with two submissions over two of the guys who are supposed to be top stars.

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Pacing of the first hour was pretty wonky. Opening with a match with the crowd white hot because it was the first match and then just a quick match (possibly truncated) between Cutler/MJR... and then everything else was just commercials and promos.

I get it, but given that NXT is throwing out a Takeover basically, I'd have gone a lot harder for the first hour.

I'm sure they'll figure it out and refine their formula. The rough product so far has been good in that it has been mostly serious/direct stuff. They had the celeb appearance and stuff, but it's not like Vickie Guerrero projectile vomiting on Stephanie McMahon or whatever.
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Not really keen to watch this one. Going to flip over.
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Not really keen to watch this one. Going to flip over.
Not putting Hikaru Shida--or a few others--was a mistake, I think. I get the dynamic they're going for, but these two strike me as pretty low on the crowd-investment scale.
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Not putting Hikaru Shida--or a few others--was a mistake, I think. I get the dynamic they're going for, but these two strike me as pretty low on the crowd-investment scale.
At least with Shida, supposedly she's still busy with other commitments in Japan at least for the next few weeks.

Would have made the results of this match a lot more obvious and doubt AEW wants their first ever women's champ to pull a Lesnar.
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Riho beat her earlo but I can't see her winning tonight
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Sigh, I was most hyped about that match coming in, but that was fairly average.

I know Hangman is one of the Elite, but I think it's time to pull back on the presenting him as a top talent for the time being. He is too bland and if he can't get a barn burner with Pac, something is clearly missing.
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There is more in the division to challenge Nyla than Riho.
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Going to commercial before a match begins and not like seconds to a minute after it starts is another good thing AEW is doing for their show compared to WWE. Same for not having a bunch of commercials breaking up the flow of a match.

Helps make things feel more enjoyable to watch overall.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:17 PM   #29
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Imagine after a few years when AEW finds the guy who they want do an undefeated gimmick with. After sticking with the wins and losses that is a sure fire hit.
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Pretty clear Nyla will win and Britt will be her first challenger
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Can that belt even fit on Nyla
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Can that belt even fit on Nyla
Needs that Mark Henry/Big Show ECW belt extender
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Fatnassy booking Nyla Rose vs Nia Jax
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I don't mean to offend anyone but I do think that Riho probably tastes good.
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Don't think there have been any long ass chin locks where the person getting the chin lock just sits still for 30 seconds... glad.......
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I give it a month before MJF does it to piss people off.
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Oh man if you can't take Nyla down with high cross from the top to the outside, you fucked!
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